Quinn & Naila: Two Truths & A Lie

After months of getting to know fascinating guests, it's time you got to know us! In this special episode, Quinn and Naila flip the script and interview each other about everything they've never shared on air.

What You'll Discover:

• How Naila's 24 years in Pakistan shaped her sustainability mission (spoiler: it started at age 10)
• Quinn's most ridiculous client story involving techno music and a major bank
• The real story behind Naila's decade-long "I'm going to learn guitar" promise
• Why Quinn has been strategically purchasing fleece-lined tights for months
• Naila's secret children's book project and app idea that could change how we connect for good
• The most embarrassing moments from 14 years at Unilever vs. 20+ years in advertising

Plus: A game of Two Truths and a Lie that reveals which host once [spoiler alert - you'll have to listen], rapid-fire favorites that span continents and decades, and the surprisingly emotional story of how a corporate sustainability expert and a brand strategist from different sides of the Atlantic became creative partners.

Whether you're here for the business insights, cultural perspectives, or just want to hear two friends figure out they both have way too many unfinished creative projects, this episode proves that sometimes the best conversations happen when you stop trying to be professional.

Connect with Quinn: @hdco on Instagram, LinkedIn Connect with Naila: @p3connect.uk on Instagram, LinkedIn

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Transcript

HDco (00:06.466)
Welcome to Now, Near, and the Future. I'm Quinn Harrington.

Naila Mr (00:09.841)
and I'm Naila Mir. Today's episode is a bit different. We're taking a break from our usual format, aren't we?

HDco (00:17.07)
How so?

Naila Mr (00:18.675)
Usually we have special guests but we are the special guests so you certainly are special.

HDco (00:28.354)
Well, great, we've run out of guests. No one wants to talk to us.

Naila Mr (00:32.383)
No, we planned this for quite a while, right? So we've always said that we're going to do something which is more about us and us getting to know each other and in the process people will get to know us.

HDco (00:43.65)
Well, isn't that what we do every episode?

Naila Mr (00:47.283)
We do, but sometimes it's a bit about, you know, we talk more about the work side of things. Hopefully we'll talk more about us in this episode. Yeah.

HDco (00:58.584)
Gotcha. My special guest is co-host Naila Mir, founder of P3 Connect, a communications agency based in London.

Naila Mr (01:08.499)
And my special guest is co-host Quinn Harrington, founder of Harrington Design Company, a brand and video production company. Very clever name, Quinn. Quinn Harrington. How long did it take you to come up with that name? We will get into that maybe. Or maybe a short story. Shall we move into our, always, Now segment?

HDco (01:25.358)
That's a long story.

or maybe a short story.

HDco (01:36.746)
Not just yet. I've pawned our rocket ship for a time machine. So we're going to go back in time a little bit. I want to know a little bit about you and how you grew up in your family. So you were born in England but spent 24 years in Pakistan, Pakistan, Pakistan. Which one is it?

Naila Mr (01:38.278)
already?

Naila Mr (01:42.82)
Okay.

Naila Mr (02:00.729)
It's up to you, you're American, you'll say Pakistan. I'm British, I'll say Pakistan.

HDco (02:04.727)
That's right, we're gonna pronounce it however we want to anyways. What was your family dynamic like growing up between two cultures?

Naila Mr (02:14.035)
That is interesting. So yes, I was born in England and we had quite a bit of moving back and forth because my dad is a business person. So he would take us back to Pakistan. So when I was six, I went back. Then I came back when I was 12, then I was 16, I went back to Pakistan, spent another 20 years over there. So the dynamics of the culture, it was mainly me getting used to Pakistan.

and the way things worked there. So when I moved back at 16, the first thing I had forgotten and I was questioning was, do people speak English? What am I going to do? What school am I going to go to? How is this going to work? And of course, when I went there, everyone spoke English. So the first shock. The second one was the whole educational difference. So I studied till year seven in England.

and then I went to Pakistan. And with all this shifting, what I didn't realize was how high the standard of education was in Pakistan compared to England. So when I came, when I studied there till year seven and I came back to England, I was actually way ahead by three years in education. So England was not as high in quality as Pakistan was. So that was another.

HDco (03:39.083)
I don't know where that puts America because we're probably below England and definitely below Pakistan.

Naila Mr (03:44.943)
my God, I don't know because you know what? English is like our first language, right? So how we construct our sentences is by nature, right? We don't have to think about grammar. But when I went to Pakistan, they were so good at grammar and all these things that I wasn't. I just happened to know how to construct sentences better, but they were better at grammar and writing than I was. Yeah. And then the third thing that really bothered me was

HDco (04:10.35)
Wow.

Naila Mr (04:14.523)
law and order and the way things worked in Pakistan versus England. So seatbelts, no seatbelts, policemen stopping you whenever they felt like for money. So I used to get quite frustrated with that because I was born here and I'm pretty much into, you know, this is how things work, it's safe, it's a system. Over there, systems don't exist sometimes.

HDco (04:40.014)
Gotcha, wow, that's quite a difference. Although, you know, London is very international. I don't know what it was like back then, but today it's very international. So, just as likely to run into someone from Africa as you are from, you know, native born.

Naila Mr (04:50.437)
yes, it's very...

Naila Mr (04:57.839)
Exactly and you get so many connections and you know you'll say my mom's from Africa she's from Africa and she would be talking to she knows six different languages so here she'll be talking to different people in Swahili in Kachi Gujarati in Urdu in Punjabi in English so she met everyone she could talk to yeah

HDco (05:19.278)
Wow, it's amazing. How many languages do you know?

Naila Mr (05:22.963)
I mean, in school we learnt French, which I've forgotten. I learnt a bit of German, forgot that too. I am now trying to learn a bit of Portuguese because my husband is Portuguese speaking. So I don't want to be left out when my daughter grows up.

HDco (05:23.992)
Two, okay.

HDco (05:42.614)
Right, they'll have their own secret language, know, like Pig Latin, and you'll be like, stop talking about me, I know you're talking about me.

Naila Mr (05:49.689)
Exactly, but he's gonna feel the same because she will know Urdu.

HDco (05:51.983)
So, pro tip, don't let him know that you are learning Portuguese. So then when they just start talking, you're like, mm-hmm, I heard exactly what you said.

Naila Mr (06:00.308)
Thank

Where am I gonna get this time but we'll probably need to fit this into the diary yeah. So you learnt a little bit about me what about you so I know you are based in Jacksonville Florida I've known you for some time because you told me we worked or you came to Unilever and we did a video together have you always been

HDco (06:10.487)
Indeed.

HDco (06:20.792)
Florida.

Naila Mr (06:33.049)
in Jacksonville, Florida? Or have you been living in other places too that I just don't know about?

HDco (06:40.654)
When I filled out my form to get my legal name change, they said, list every address that you've had since birth. And I was like, okay, I'm gonna need an extra piece of paper. Because as a military brat, we moved all over the United States. Mostly on the East Coast, but I have bounced around between Virginia,

Tampa, Florida, this part of Florida, Kansas City, Illinois, Texas, and some other places I don't even really remember. yeah, it's been a far and wide. We always moved every three to four years. So growing up, family was important and...

because they were like the only friends that you really had long term and you're always sort of reluctant to, you know, make friends because you knew you were going to have to move in a few years. So that part was tough, but I got to experience a lot of different, you know, parts of the United States and I think there's some value to that.

Naila Mr (07:57.246)
Did you, so you know how when you were younger, your accents or you pick up languages very quickly? Do you have different accents between all these states and did you change accents as often?

HDco (08:11.224)
That's a good question because my parents are from rural North Carolina. So growing up they definitely had kind of like a southern drawl and I did too as well. But I've definitely lost that over the years except when I go back to North Carolina I pick it back up really quickly. So I start you know I always say things like y'all and yonder and you know bless your heart.

But that really only comes out when I'm back in Appalachia.

Naila Mr (08:47.015)
You know, I'm not very good at detecting accents, right? So if I'm watching in a movie, Hollywood movie, I will not tell. If I'm watching something in England, fine. I will, you know, say, yeah, that's not London, but something else. I can never tell. So one thing is, how about giving me a sentence in your Southern so I can tell the difference.

HDco (09:09.484)
Hmm... Okay.

HDco (09:17.582)
just trying to think here.

HDco (09:23.297)
So.

get to the restaurant, you're going to want to jump in your pickup truck, you're going to drive down the lane about two miles, just a little bit yonder past that windmill, you're going to take a ride, and then you're going to go another mile, you're going to pass this big oak tree, and then when you get to that red barn, not the blue barn, the red barn, you're going to stop, and you're going to go around back that barn, and that's your parking spot.

and the restaurant is this little nook and they got the greatest cornbread and collard greens and their barbecue's okay but I think you're really gonna enjoy it and you're gonna love that waitress, she's such a sweetheart and when she tells you bless your heart she doesn't really mean that she means you dumb bitch.

Naila Mr (10:11.924)
You

Naila Mr (10:15.412)
no! That was pretty cool and it's quite entertaining actually.

HDco (10:24.792)
Well thanks. Yeah I used to do a really good Bill Clinton accent. I've kind of lost it a little bit. You know because he's got that of gravelly Alabama voice you know. And Southern is not Southern everywhere. when like Mississippi Southern is totally different than Florida Southern then it's different than Georgia or Kentucky or Nashville. And as you start getting up past West Virginia which is like sort of northern Southern.

Naila Mr (10:26.052)
Okay

HDco (10:54.072)
they start to sort of lose it a little bit. It's very interesting how when you start to move into the Midwest, their draw changes.

Naila Mr (11:05.114)
is interesting. I was watching Family Feud on YouTube. I often watch Family Feud clips and he's funny right Steve Harvey. One of the question was which states I think states I think he said or cities say y'all and the first thing that came to my head was Quinn. I remembered you for some reason I don't know what because you said it once or twice or many times.

HDco (11:09.207)
OK.

HDco (11:28.172)
Well, yeah, it's definitely not Florida. I mean, Florida is really two, maybe three different states. So you've got North Florida, which is more like South Georgia. So that's definitely the South. As you start moving into Orlando, that's not the South anymore. When you get into the Miami area, that's a whole different country. So Florida is like really three different states in one.

Naila Mr (11:55.861)
Do you know, I've only been to New York. That's it. no, no, no, that's not true. I've been to New York, cities now we're talking about, right? I've been to New York, San Francisco. Then my friend lives in Laguna Beach. So whatever came on that side, I went and I did the walk. What is the broad walk? Where all the stars are, the stars.

HDco (12:07.169)
Right.

HDco (12:20.8)
Right. the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

Naila Mr (12:26.236)
Yeah, so I've seen that, but I have not seen anything else about America.

HDco (12:31.33)
Well, that's what most people think of when they think of America is New York, San Francisco, Los Angeles. That's Washington, D.C. That's really about it. But that's only like a tiny microcosm of this huge country. So you have like what we call flyover country where you're going from one coast to the west. And from my point of view, that's like the real America, not discounting New York or or L.A., but it's really kind of more like the extremes.

Naila Mr (12:44.902)
Yeah. Yeah.

Naila Mr (13:01.364)
Mm.

HDco (13:01.434)
of our country and even New York and LA sort of compete each other for who's the coolest.

Naila Mr (13:09.406)
That is true. Because I watch Jimmy Kimmel's show too, quite a bit. And he's always talking about the two. Because you have some comedian talk shows that are New York based and some that are LA based and he's always talking about the two. And I think he's in LA. Yeah. He's based in LA. I- See? I've got it wrong, haven't I? No! No! No!

HDco (13:13.602)
Okay.

HDco (13:27.35)
Is he? I thought he was in New York.

HDco (13:32.044)
I don't know. I haven't watched late night talk shows in a while, so maybe he is based out of LA.

Naila Mr (13:36.752)
He is because he's always got his people on the the Broadway so they're always stopping people on the Broadway and talking so definitely at LA.

HDco (13:40.94)
Mm-hmm.

Right. That makes sense. All right. Naila, tell me about your mom. What kind of person is she? How did she influence who you became?

Naila Mr (13:58.815)
That's a really good question. I just said, like, I referenced that she was born in Africa, Tanzania, and she moved to England when she was 20. I met my dad. And she's Muslim, but she's from a different sect of Islam. So we have lots of sects in Islam. So they're different kind of communities. Sectors, sectors.

HDco (14:20.558)
Excuse me?

HDco (14:25.866)
Okay, just clarifying that for the listeners, she's talking about religious sexta—

Naila Mr (14:30.068)
sectors of Islam. So there was a cultural difference there but what I, my mum has always taught us doing the right thing. So this whole community caring for people, family, values, all of that came from my mum. The fact that we are hardworking, know, business minded, some of it comes from my dad.

but most of it also comes from my mum. So I think she's taught us the life lessons that we needed to be good people today. And she is still like that. I mean, she's so sweet. She's not even harmed an ant. That's what I tell people. That's how sweet she is. And throughout her life, in all the most difficult times that she's had, very stressful life she's had, being the person she is and values she's taught us.

has always protected her. So whenever she's been in trouble, because she's been so loving to everyone else, they've always come to help her at the right moment. So yeah, well, my mum, she's the rock of the family for all of us. So we all gather at her house. Yeah, every Saturday we all at her house. Is it?

HDco (15:43.394)
I love that. Yeah, I can see that definitely reflected in you, you know, with your, yeah, I mean, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Naila Mr (15:54.134)
aww that is sweet by the way you love cooking and if you ever want recipes my mum is the person I always said you should have a restaurant

HDco (16:00.908)
I know I've been asking them, I've been asking for them since episode one, so I'm not gonna hold my breath.

Naila Mr (16:05.941)
Do you know what, shall we just do one episode on recipes that we share with each other?

HDco (16:13.686)
Yeah, I think we should. Absolutely.

Naila Mr (16:15.357)
Right? Yeah, that would be a cultural thing as well. So new things that you've got and yeah, okay, perfect.

HDco (16:18.86)
Yes, we will. It's going to be our next Cross the Pond segment.

Naila Mr (16:24.149)
lovely. I would like that. So we're not in the now segment, are we? We're still talking about for.

HDco (16:31.404)
Yeah, we're still on our time machine. I think we got time for maybe one or two more.

Naila Mr (16:33.397)
We're on the time machine. Okay. So what I want to know about you is I want to know what was Quinn like when she was 10 years old or just your personality. What, what did you love? What did you used to do? How did you keep yourself entertained?

HDco (16:56.782)
So, I mean, obviously I wasn't Quinn per se back then, but I was very much into kind of starting around 12, 13. We moved to Brandon, Florida, which is just outside of Tampa. And there's this kid on the street named James and he was a skateboarder from California.

And he was a little bit older than us and all of us younger kids just kind of idolized him. So of course we all got into skateboarding. We would build our street ramps from stolen construction wood. You we'd find these sites and drag plywood and two by fours and do our little makeshift ramps. We would skate all over Brandon, Florida. You know, back in the day we were latchkey kids. You know, my parents worked on bass.

Naila Mr (17:27.007)
Mm-hmm.

HDco (17:55.795)
which is about a 45 minute drive from where we lived. from the time I got home from school, I was pretty much on my own. And, you know, especially on the weekends, we would just, you know, we would skate to like this place called Lithia Springs and they had like a cold water spring and, we would dive in and play around there for a while and then skate home and just have all these different adventures going to like, you know, buying candy from the

candy store and just kind of doing whatever we want. My neighborhood, you know, we all lived like within a couple houses of each other. So we had this green box, which is like a sort of an electrical box for underground electrical. And we would all gather at the green box to figure out what we were going to do that night. And we were, you know, seventh and eighth graders. So we were still very kind of

young and learning about ourselves. But that was definitely one of the the fonder times. As we got a little bit older we started getting into trouble. There was this nightclub, teen nightclub that we went to and one night we got ourselves into a little bit of trouble. I ended up

Naila Mr (19:04.191)
Thank

HDco (19:19.31)
throwing up in the nightclub and they kicked me out and that was like the worst night ever. Got home, came inside. Hey, is everything okay? And I'll be like, yeah, it's fine. What'd you do? Nothing. I'm tired. I'm going to bed. So my mom doesn't listen to this podcast, so I'm not too worried about it. But yeah, we had had lots of adventures.

Naila Mr (19:22.613)
you

Naila Mr (19:37.673)
And I'm never gonna drink again. You probably, every time you say this, I don't wanna drink again, I'm not gonna touch it again, and then next thing you know, you're on it again.

HDco (19:46.326)
Yes, I did say that as I am never drinking again and probably didn't for months. So. what happened?

Naila Mr (19:50.932)
your voice went...

Naila Mr (19:57.245)
Is it just me?

HDco (19:57.473)
no, we still got signal.

think we still have signal. Yeah.

Naila Mr (20:04.65)
Wait, one second. Let me, you're back.

HDco (20:10.988)
Maybe your internet dropped out.

Naila Mr (20:13.142)
that's why, that's why. And I've just realized I've got Naila M.R. written, like Mr. Naila instead of Naila Mere. I can put an I in it, I could, I can. Okay, that's interesting. So listen, you know you said you traveled quite a bit around America. What was your favorite place?

HDco (20:20.854)
that's funny. Mr. Nyla.

HDco (20:36.962)
My favorite place was when I went to my first college near Roanoke, Virginia. And that's kind of the southern western part of Virginia. So it's basically Appalachia country. So the Appalachian Mountains run from like Georgia all the way up to Maine. And it's a very old mountain range. And you know, it's the kind of place where

Naila Mr (20:53.878)
Mm-hmm.

HDco (21:06.84)
people grow their own weed and make their own moonshine and you'd be likely to sit on the porch while Uncle Joe plays the fiddle and Aunt Jan plays the washboard. It was very like, when you think of the movie Deliverance, without all the incest and murder and stuff like that, but...

Naila Mr (21:29.652)
Yes?

HDco (21:36.835)
It was very much a very country, but the people in Appalachia, in that part of Virginia, they're just wonderful. And they're very kind and generous. No one is really rich. No one has a lot, but they'll give you what they have. So that kind of informed my upbringing about seeing true grit in people who

Naila Mr (21:57.472)
nice.

HDco (22:05.774)
who work hard, they're humble, and live a simple life. So I really love that experience. And also it's a really beautiful part of America that not everyone gets to see.

Naila Mr (22:21.109)
Oh, well. Well, if I ever decide to go around, I will be asking you where I should be going. And I'm more into these kind of things, right? It's about the experiences. I like to do the, not the touristy touristy, but I like to see new places. I love scenery. You know, I like the beach, but not so much because I can't swim.

HDco (22:45.826)
Well that's a thing. I was a lifeguard, so...

Naila Mr (22:49.109)
Oh my god! Where are you?

HDco (22:51.766)
I was, yeah, in high school.

Naila Mr (22:54.191)
wow!

HDco (22:55.662)
Yeah, I was a lifeguard and I was teaching swim lessons. And one day I asked one of the parents, was like, how much do you pay for swim lessons? And they're like $50 a lesson. I was like, okay, what if I taught both your kids for $50 a lesson and I'll come to your house so you don't even have to come here? And they're like, that would be great.

And that's how I started my first business. So in fact, hang on a second.

Naila Mr (23:25.155)
wow.

Naila Mr (23:31.515)
No way.

HDco (23:31.629)
So this was the flyer. My first graphic design project says learn to swim. Yes. I mean this is just so so terrible. know doing this with the doing this with paste up I was saving that as a first speech I was I was working on. But yeah I was a lifeguard and really enjoyed swim lessons and that sort of gave me the first taste for having my own business.

Naila Mr (23:35.886)
L2S, learn to swim. I love it. You've kept it. No, that's amazing.

HDco (24:01.583)
Because while all the other lifeguards were making minimum wage, I was making 50 bucks an hour. And I was like, enjoy your lifeguarding, enjoy yelling at kids at the pool. I'm laughing all the way to the bank.

Naila Mr (24:11.956)
Wow. wow. I only dreamed of being a business person. So it's three things I love doing, right? Taking care of people, teaching. So I used to have an imaginary classroom and then I would have my imaginary shop. So that was me at eight, nine and 10. And obviously I ended up in these three areas anyways. But yeah, I never got into making money at that age. I should have thought of those things.

HDco (24:30.882)
Okay.

HDco (24:38.915)
I don't know, I just really kind of stumbled into it. I don't know, I feel like I've always had that entrepreneurial spirit. Even when I've had opportunities for jobs, good jobs, I've always felt that that feels like real work reporting to someone day in and day out. You sacrifice security, you sacrifice stability.

Naila Mr (24:48.256)
That's great.

Naila Mr (25:02.196)
Mm.

HDco (25:08.931)
But I don't know, I wouldn't have it any other way and I kind of think you feel the same way too.

Naila Mr (25:14.186)
Now I do, yeah, because I had what, we're gonna talk about it, I was what, 20 something years in corporate. So I always knew I was going to work, because that's my mom, she always worked. But then I flipped it, then I also, I always knew I wanted to have my own business, which is what my dad used to do. So I went between the two and ended up in my long term doing my own thing, which I do love, right? The agility, work when you want to work.

Obviously when you have projects you have to deliver on time. Now it's an art of juggling right now. So yeah, I do enjoy it.

HDco (25:52.56)
And you have a toddler. She's 14 months now, right? 14, 15 months.

Naila Mr (25:56.233)
I do.

You are right, she is 15 months soon. Soon. Yeah. Going on three.

HDco (26:03.759)
So how do you juggle all of that? What's something about being a new mom that no one prepared you for?

Naila Mr (26:14.858)
that no one prepared me for.

HDco (26:17.091)
Mm-hmm.

Naila Mr (26:19.496)
It was this, the juggling part. And to tell you the truth, I don't think I'm there yet with the juggling. I'm every day, every day I think, okay, this is how I'm going to do things, right? I'm going to spend this much time with Isa and then she'll go to daycare and then I'm going to spend this much time with work. will try, I'll complete everything which I never do because it never stops. Then I'll spend another few hours with her before she go to sleep because...

HDco (26:42.575)
Mm-hmm.

Naila Mr (26:47.688)
I want to spend as much time she spent in the daycare, right? So if she's six hours in daycare, I need to have spent as much time with her as well at home. But I don't think I'm there and no one taught me about this, right? And now when I think about it, being pregnant was easier than now the after pregnancy stuff that has to happen.

HDco (27:13.315)
Yeah, your life is going to get steadily easier until they start getting into their preteen years. yeah, mean, starting to experience that now with my 12 year old who texted me from school asking if she can play Roblox. I'm like, sorry, no.

Naila Mr (27:24.875)
really?

Naila Mr (27:36.182)
That's cool.

At least she texted and asked.

HDco (27:41.869)
Yeah, she did. should give her some credit for that. Let me see if she got back to me. No. She took no for an answer. Good. Yes. Yeah, I wasn't like, yeah, getting ready to get on a podcast. Talk to you later.

Naila Mr (27:44.32)
Say, yeah, yeah, yeah, she'll really appreciate that too.

No, because you said no. No, you... Thank you for asking though.

HDco (28:02.271)
how did you meet your husband?

Naila Mr (28:05.313)
That's an interesting one too. Well basically, well it's not, it's very quick. my brother basically said, I have a friend who I think you're gonna really like, so I think you should meet him and you're gonna get on really well. And I said, okay. I mean, what's the harm? Because I was single.

HDco (28:07.528)
yeah, well, tell me more.

Okay.

Naila Mr (28:33.879)
and he connected us and then we went wow I'm thinking this is 2019 yeah I think it was 2018 or 19 one of those and then yeah we met for the first time and in through like we spent three hours together just in the car in the park and we got on really well and then he asked me out again and then again and then again and then it went on

HDco (28:36.291)
How long ago was this?

HDco (28:41.528)
Okay.

Naila Mr (29:02.933)
and then Covid happened and we were still there together. But yeah, it was my brother and it's his friend. Yeah, and my brother...

HDco (29:12.353)
Are you still indebted to him or are you like, you know, yeah, okay.

Naila Mr (29:15.531)
yes, we're married now. Yes. No, I was going, no, I thought I had a question in my mind. It slipped.

HDco (29:20.311)
Wonderful, wonderful. Go ahead.

Naila Mr (29:33.129)
I think so when when did you get married what age were you when you get married because you have a 20 something year old daughter

HDco (29:45.519)
Yeah, she's 22. She's about to turn 23. So I got married for the first time in 2000. Yeah, in 2000. And then that one crashed and burned in about 2010. And I got married again in 2013. That one also ended disastrously in 2013. So.

Just been Gwen ever since. But I got two lovely children as parting gifts, so, you know, it's not all bad.

Naila Mr (30:17.664)
and was

Naila Mr (30:21.803)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And your first one, was it you met at work or did you meet at college or how did you meet?

HDco (30:30.7)
So I was working at the agency and Jacksonville has this big party for the marketing and advertising community and there was like four or five hundred people at this hotel at the beach and I was hanging out with my friend Stacey and we were sort of scoping the crowd and she was talking about the guys she likes and I was you know looking at the people that I like and so

Naila Mr (30:44.788)
Ooh.

HDco (30:59.436)
I saw this blonde kind of halfway across the room and I told Stacey, I want to talk to her. so funny story is, is I got to chatting with Melanie and I was standing on this deck and she was below. She looked up and I looked down and I was just like, wow, you have the most beautiful eyes. She had these like vibrant blue.

I think she was wearing like colored contacts or something. So we got to talking and at the same time I had this major crush on the receptionist at work. So it's kind of like one of these is going to work out tonight, but I was still kind of favoring the receptionist and as the night ends Melanie is walking through the lobby as she's about to leave and I'm kind of on my way out too.

Naila Mr (31:46.071)
Okay.

HDco (31:57.475)
But I'm still holding out for the receptionist because at this point she'd had quite a few drinks and I was like, I have any chance, it's now. So anyhow, that didn't work out. Melanie left. She said, this is your last chance. I was like, I'll see you. And I ended up going home alone. So I completely, completely blew it. But I found out that she worked at the business journal.

Naila Mr (32:07.959)
Hehehe.

Naila Mr (32:19.486)
HDco (32:26.926)
here in Jacksonville. And so was talking with my girlfriends about how do I like reconnect because I knew she was going to go on vacation. She'd be out for a couple of weeks. And I was like flowers is too much because we only talked for like 10 minutes. I was like so my friend Jennifer was like you know what you could do is like you know when you get back to work you'd be kind of getting reacclimated.

What you could do is take her to lunch. I was like, that's a good idea. I like, how do I do that? She's like, another friend was like, you know what you could do is take like a little paper bag and then just write her name on it and then put a little note in there and it say something like, I know your first day back at work from vacation might be tough. So let me take you to lunch. So I got this little paper bag. We're all creative people. So we're like coming up with witty ideas.

And so I went to the business journal, walked into the reception desk and I said, took this paper bag and I said, this is for Melanie and can you give it to her? And the receptionist is like, well, why don't you just give it to her yourself? And I was like, no, no, no, no, that's fine. Just whenever you get a chance and walked right out of the door and left, but almost blew that whole, you know.

whole idea, but I got a call later and we ended up going to dinner and the rest is kind of history.

Naila Mr (34:02.488)
That is kind of sweet.

HDco (34:05.838)
It is, it's very sweet. mean, you know, the first seven years of that was great. So the last three, not so much, but we're going to focus on the memories.

Naila Mr (34:08.086)
Yeah, very.

Naila Mr (34:11.88)
that's good.

Yeah, yeah. And you know what? With every relationship you learn, right? So for the next one and then the next one. So I also was married before and I was with this person for 18 years. So met him at 16 in Pakistan. because I was there, yeah, met him at 16. He went off to Bristol University in the UK. I stayed in Pakistan. He came back. We got married. Stayed with him for another nine years. So that's 18 years with one person.

HDco (34:31.734)
wow.

Naila Mr (34:46.424)
And then it didn't work at the end. And it happened to work out the same time I had to leave for my global role in the UK. So everything worked out. But I learnt a lot from that relationship. And I don't think about the bad things anymore. I just think about, you know, the good things we did. We were tolerated. We were, you know, compromised for each other. He was a good person at heart. So, yeah, yeah, you learn. But you don't repeat the mistakes either.

HDco (35:14.488)
That's true. That's true. I think one of the big things I learned out of both of those long term well one was a long term relationship but both of those those marriages is that.

You have to be true to yourself. I think obviously compromise is a core component to any successful long term relationship. But I find often people are on their best behavior during the courtship part, you know, part. And both of those marriages, I really rushed into them. Not quite as much. I mean, because, you know, with

Naila Mr (35:46.05)
Yes.

HDco (35:57.952)
with Melanie my first marriage, you know, when I had met her, remember, I picked her out of a crowd of 500 people. So I felt like that rolling the dice, I am never going to find someone as hot as she is. So and smart and charming and and all this is like. If. This this is the high bar for me, and if I don't, you know, if I don't go after this, you know, I can only go downhill from there.

But when you're putting on your best behavior and you're essentially engaged within six months, you don't really get to know each other. And I think that was probably a mistake on both of our parts. I think we both had our own reasons for moving so quickly. Second go around, I gave it more time. Natalie was essentially like a business partner. She was my executive producer at the agency.

Naila Mr (36:46.658)
Mm.

HDco (36:58.341)
And so we spent a lot of time together and, you this go around, I felt that, you know, I wanted to make a decision that was better for my daughter and, you know, more of a life partner versus like going after that hot fiery romance that we, you know, all dream about. But ultimately, I feel like that the expectations

going in changed once we were actually married. And then all of sudden we realized that we really weren't that aligned. then a kid got involved and now all of a sudden we have the challenges of raising a young child when we're both in our late 40s, been to late 40s. So that was difficult. And we really never had much of a honeymoon.

Naila Mr (37:50.848)
Mmm.

HDco (37:57.742)
per se, was like, work together, get married, have a kid within a year, and then all of a sudden, all of the parts of our individual personalities really, you know, began to shine. And ultimately, I felt like that we really weren't as compatible as we had hoped we would be.

Naila Mr (38:23.03)
Yeah, that happens and every relationship, like the first one always, like you compromise a lot with the love, right? Then every relation, I always said that, wait till six months before you decide, you know, let the relation, I call it the rosy glasses, let the rosy glasses come off, then you will see. But sometimes I think each thing is so individual, right? You deal with it so differently, each relationship.

HDco (38:31.787)
Mm-hmm.

HDco (38:41.547)
Yes.

HDco (38:49.09)
Mm-hmm.

Naila Mr (38:53.336)
So like my last one was two years The rosy glasses came off, but I still was in that relationship Started questioning is this the right one? Is this not the right one? Then by the time I decided it was two years. So so Yeah, yeah. Yeah It got it's tricky though. I think you should just go my basic philosophy is You can love multiple people in your life over the span of how much you're living. You need to have respect you need to have trust

HDco (38:58.605)
Mm-hmm.

HDco (39:07.841)
Wow.

Naila Mr (39:22.924)
You need to be able to depend on the person and you need to be yourself, be able to be yourself. Right? And that's what I live by and how you test your relationship is you need to be happy and the minute you're not happy is when you have that conversation instead of brooding in the unhappiness and trying to make things work and work and work. If you're not happy, you're not happy. So.

HDco (39:40.29)
Right.

HDco (39:49.459)
said, as someone who is a veteran of the wedding industry.

Naila Mr (39:53.656)
I just realized

HDco (39:56.366)
You know, that's fine for you. I just don't personally believe in the institution anymore. So does it mean I don't believe that there's no such thing as true love? But, you know, I've seen a lot.

Naila Mr (40:01.242)
Aye, yeah.

Naila Mr (40:10.933)
Yeah, sometimes you're better happier alone, sometimes you're not. There is no answer right or wrong.

HDco (40:16.533)
You make it sound so like like I'm like desperate when you're probably just better alone It's nothing wrong with being

On that note, feel like we should go around the room.

Naila Mr (40:30.017)
I think we should because we still haven't got to I think now, near and future.

HDco (40:35.341)
Are we still doing that?

Naila Mr (40:37.284)
we're not, let's just do free.

HDco (40:40.171)
I mean, I still haven't broke up into segments, but let's go around the room. Mine is quick. So I was almost struck by lightning.

Naila Mr (40:43.649)
Alright, Okay.

What? When?

HDco (40:50.061)
I'm gonna say about a month ago. It was around eight or nine o'clock and I was going to pick up my daughter from the airport. She just got back from Portugal with her mom and You know, so I get in the car I don't know it's going to get chicken nuggets before I went to the airport. Yeah, it doesn't matter. I'm going to get into the car and

Naila Mr (41:02.201)
Mmm.

Naila Mr (41:14.969)
you

HDco (41:19.039)
I see this as I open the door. I see this bright flash of light like someone just took like a camera flash and popped it in your in your face. And so I was like stunned. Like, where's this light coming from? And then immediately hear this crack of thunder. I mean, like so loud that it just it scared the shit out of me. And so I kind of did this sort of sideways dive into the car.

Naila Mr (41:43.821)
my god.

HDco (41:49.67)
And when I did that, I heard this crunching sound on my left side where like my ribcage is. And I was like, God, that can't be good. But anyhow, had to go and, you know, pick up this food. So drove, got the nuggets, ended up having to go to the airport, all this driving, get back at like 11 o'clock at night. And now I'm like, I'm hurting. And I'm like, yeah.

I'm going to be sore and I still haven't fully recovered. I know I probably cracked a rib or something like that. Just think I didn't end up in my lung or liver or kidney or something like that.

Naila Mr (42:31.321)
Oh my god, and you got hurt from the jump into the car or it actually hit you? Oh wow. I thought, oh my god, it hit you and you didn't know you got burnt.

HDco (42:34.667)
Yeah, I got hurt from jumping into the car.

HDco (42:42.943)
I almost would have rather been struck by lightning than to, you know, because it would have been over by now. And now I'm still like, when I roll over in bed, I'm like, my God, it's awful.

Naila Mr (42:45.561)
my.

Naila Mr (42:54.762)
my god, that's never happened to me. Yeah.

HDco (42:57.943)
Well, we're in the lightning capital of the world here in Florida.

Naila Mr (43:03.385)
What did you say?

HDco (43:04.429)
I said we're in the lightning capital of the world here in Florida. it's really it's like, you know, get bit by a shark or get struck by lightning and being bit by a shark at the same time.

Naila Mr (43:06.873)
yeah.

Naila Mr (43:16.573)
my god. my god, you know they say sometimes seven things happen in a row. That's true. I'm sure there's three, four, five, and six, and seven that might happen with it.

HDco (43:23.639)
Yeah.

HDco (43:27.341)
All right, what about you?

Naila Mr (43:29.015)
What's happening? What's happening? What's happening? What's happening? I really can't.

HDco (43:30.475)
Yes. Yes.

We're finally in the now segment. is your moment.

Naila Mr (43:37.208)
Yeah, what's happening now? Other than the fact that I'm still in this space of juggling. no, so I'm a trustee on this charity. It's called ITAUK and we focus on education. So we support education initiatives in Pakistan. So whether it's teacher training or students or sponsoring students. So I've actually got an event coming up on the 12th of September at the Pakistan High Commission.

HDco (43:42.604)
Yeah.

Naila Mr (44:07.834)
So I'm busy planning that on top of everything else that I do on a day-to-day basis. So if I wasn't busy, I'm really busy now. So yeah, that's keeping me awake and busy now, but I hope it goes out well. So we're hoping about 100 people come, people showing their innovations around education and learning, and hopefully we can have more collaborations between UK and Pakistan. So yeah, that's exciting.

HDco (44:17.76)
Wow.

HDco (44:36.599)
That is very exciting. You're always doing something. All right, let's properly introduce today's special guest, Naila Mir. Naila is the founder of P3 Connect UK, a sustainability consultancy focused on empowering people with passion and purpose to create a meaningful impact. Born in England and raised in Pakistan for 24 years, Naila brings a unique

Naila Mr (44:45.21)
feel so special.

HDco (45:02.093)
cross-cultural perspective to her work in corporate social responsibility and employee engagement. lot of P's in that paragraph. She spent 14 years at Unilever leading global sustainable business communications where she championed everything from supply chain transparency to employee empowerment initiatives. A trained facilitator of the 2030 SDG game and mother to 14-year-old Isa, Nylasha somehow manages to juggle international clients.

podcast hosting and developing a children's book series about sustainability. Fun fact, she owns an impressive collection of unread books and has been planning to learn guitar for approximately a decade.

Naila Mr (45:39.725)
You

Naila Mr (45:43.436)
Yes, those are the books. And you're right, and it's the bass guitar and I still want to learn it amongst the Portuguese that I want to learn too. Maybe Isaac can learn the guitar for me.

HDco (45:55.24)
Anytime you want a lesson, you just let me know.

Naila Mr (45:58.139)
wait a minute. Wait. So yes, we're going to get into this. Let me introduce you first. And then I'm going to ask you about this guitar thing. So and stop calling me special. We're all special. I love how you say it as well. So let me introduce my special guest, Quinn Harrington, who is the CEO and Chief Brand Concierge at HDCO. Is it HDCO or HDCO?

HDco (46:12.129)
special.

special guest.

HDco (46:29.137)
HD ECO is short for Harrington Design Company. So it's interchangeable. Yes.

Naila Mr (46:31.96)
Yes, so I'm saying not HDCO, it's okay, fine. It's a branding agency that builds brands people love, I love it, for companies including TransUnion, Nielsen, ESPN and the PGA Tour. A second, wait, a second generation DJ with over two decades of experience in design strategy and video production. transforms complex business challenges into compelling brand stories.

Her work spans from brand identity, marketing communication to keynote videos that get C-suite executives pumped up before big presentations. That's very true as well. I've heard all about these presentations. And if you want to know more, get in touch with Quinn. When she's not creating magic, brand magic, Quinn can be found planning elaborate trips to England, pending her passport approval. We've been waiting.

Perfecting, I love this one, perfecting her fleece lined tights collection for London weather or philosophical, yeah, this is funny as well. Your ultimate and ongoing conversations with Claude, the AI assistant, whether you're planning your business strategy or a Thanksgiving menu and you've taught me so much as well in the process of that.

HDco (47:54.37)
Thank you. And thank you to Claude for that shameless self-promotion.

Naila Mr (48:00.831)
Yes, but there's a fun fact as well. The fun fact is you once convinced a major bank to open a conference with a techno music video and somehow it worked brilliantly. Can you tell me very quickly what was that about?

HDco (48:17.399)
So the COO had this big CTO conference and it's like 500 of Citibank's top tech nerds. They invited Michael Dell who founded Dell computers and this guy wanted like to hype up the crowd and he also happened to be a fan of Chemical Brothers which is like a sort of a 90s techno band. And so he shared a track with us. We listened to it.

Naila Mr (48:38.904)
Mm-hmm.

HDco (48:46.273)
And our first immediate thought was, can't play this at a corporate conference. People will freak out. And we decided to take the risk anyways and kind of shook up the industry of keynote videos, at least for that industry, because nobody had ever heard anything like that or seen anything like that before. But being naive and creative, nobody told us we couldn't do that. So we did.

Naila Mr (49:07.831)
Love.

HDco (49:14.903)
That was kind of the beginning of our keynote video history.

Naila Mr (49:18.382)
That is amazing. And you know what? That's a lesson, right? You're never going to know until you try. And you need to be able to experiment with things. So you came up with Techno for tech people, basically.

HDco (49:31.361)
You know what? That just occurred to me. Might have to add that to my speech. Shall we move to the near segment?

Naila Mr (49:33.284)
What?

Yes, so...

HDco (49:42.699)
We have about 10 minutes left.

Naila Mr (49:44.528)
we have exactly so the near segment is it time for okay it's not across the pond but the near segment so and now I was thinking about this do I want to ask you something which is business related or do I want to ask something that is more personal and I'm okay good so what's next in your immediate world is basically have you got a personal goal that you want to tick off by the end of this year

HDco (49:59.052)
Nobody cares about the business stuff. Let's go personal.

HDco (50:13.931)
Well, finishing this first season and planning for the next one. So, I mean, that's huge. I have been preparing for public speaking for a while, and I would love to get my first public speech under my belt by the end of the year.

telling my story and sort of the narrative of like business evolution, business makeover, brand makeover kind of thing.

Naila Mr (50:38.96)
Lovely.

Naila Mr (50:50.905)
sounds interesting I'm sure I'm gonna hear about more about this yeah exactly yeah exactly

HDco (50:54.049)
Yeah, you will. I'll rehearse it with you one time, you'll get a private showing of that. How about you?

Naila Mr (51:01.307)
I love that. What's in my next? What's what's in my near so in my near is moving into a bigger house and I've got a plan for end of this year which will be great for our podcast as well because I will have a dedicated room and we've been talking about how we can improve everything so that's on the plan for this year.

HDco (51:07.519)
and you're near.

HDco (51:17.794)
Yes.

Naila Mr (51:31.095)
And then the other one is something I've been saying forever is how do I shift my business and how I manage the work I do. So I'm still rethinking that a bit. So I need to talk to Claude, like you have suggested about business strategy and what that looks like and how I'm doing it.

HDco (51:40.364)
Mm-hmm.

HDco (51:51.286)
It's a constant challenge. I've been working with my new junior designer on coming up with strategy for some initiatives that we have. All right, let's go across the pond.

Naila Mr (52:06.959)
Let's do that, let's do that. okay, go on then.

HDco (52:12.301)
But in this segment, we're gonna do something a little different. We're gonna play a game. But before, it's gonna be a short game, because we're short on time. So before we get into the game, Two Truths and a Lie, I do have one question. What does Scooby mean?

Naila Mr (52:19.163)
no.

Naila Mr (52:23.939)
Yeah, gone.

Naila Mr (52:34.671)
You know, I will have to find out, but the first thing that comes to my mind when you say Scooby is Scooby Doo.

HDco (52:42.221)
Well, that's what I thought too. And then I heard it in this Netflix show and they might be more Scottish than British, but they were talking about something about being Scooby or that's Scooby. I was just like, it's like maybe Nyla knows, but she doesn't.

Naila Mr (52:55.993)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like a slang and a cockney thing. So when you go into the eastern side of London, we call it the Cockney area, so where I was born, East London, they do a lot of these words and they rhyme. They rhyme the words and it actually means something. So in this one, I read up on it, Scooby Doo clue. So basically it means I have no clue.

HDco (53:08.109)
Mm-hmm.

HDco (53:23.581)
Okay, yeah, cuz it was a crime show and so maybe that's what they were saying is I have no clue Could be

Naila Mr (53:28.921)
Yes, it's quite funny and I'm wondering if Scooby Doo actually came from that because Scooby Doo is a bit clueless as well, right? Yeah. We did. So, are you starting first with this game? Okay, go on then. Test me.

HDco (53:37.15)
That's true. I think we just I think we just solved a Ruh-roh!

HDco (53:48.779)
Yes. Okay. I'm going to give you three statements about myself and you tell me which one is a lie.

Naila Mr (53:56.973)
Okay, go on.

HDco (53:58.763)
I failed out of college. I hiked the Appalachian Trail. I'm Japanese.

Naila Mr (54:07.888)
That's it, that's a bit... So wait, can you repeat that then?

HDco (54:13.301)
I failed out of college. I hiked the Appalachian Trail. I'm Japanese.

Naila Mr (54:21.212)
You got a trick in there, isn't it? Because the first instinct I'm gonna say is you're not Japanese, that's a lie.

HDco (54:31.211)
You're incorrect.

Naila Mr (54:32.762)
I'm incorrect?

HDco (54:34.965)
So I dodged the whole thing about all the places that I've been in your earlier question because I was born in Japan.

Naila Mr (54:40.752)
Yeah.

Naila Mr (54:45.084)
not by ethnicity, but you were born in Japan.

HDco (54:47.501)
And then, right, I'm not ethnically Japanese, obviously, but I was born in Japan outside of this town called Tachikawa. And I lived there for two years. So I'm actually like a naturalized citizen of America. But when I turned 18, dad asked me, he's like,

So now that you're 18, you have the opportunity to become a dual citizen of Japan and America. And I was like, why would I want to do that? Like I live here. Didn't realize at the time how amazing that could have been to have been a dual citizen of both countries, but it's too late now.

Naila Mr (55:34.48)
wow. You know I started looking at you like, you're not Japanese. no, this is a tough one here. Okay, so.

HDco (55:41.301)
I don't know what gave that away. Kind of insulted, frankly. Alright, you go.

Naila Mr (55:54.607)
I have four tattoos, we're six sisters and a brother, and I'm an Oxford graduate.

HDco (56:09.665)
You don't have any tattoos.

Naila Mr (56:12.368)
No, I have four.

HDco (56:14.643)
how many brothers and sisters do you have? I know you had a lot of them.

Naila Mr (56:18.012)
We're six sisters and a brother.

HDco (56:21.419)
Well, which one is a lie?

Naila Mr (56:21.468)
11 nephew and nieces. So the Oxford one, I haven't graduated from Oxford.

HDco (56:28.941)
you went to Oxford. You graduated from Cambridge, right?

Naila Mr (56:33.754)
Both of them were just short courses so can't really say I graduated from there.

HDco (56:38.061)
I Well, I think we're going to have to go in and update that LinkedIn page because that is a little misleading.

Naila Mr (56:44.344)
Really? But it says I did diploma in Cambridge sustainability and I did a leadership in women's and leadership course from Oxford.

HDco (56:52.811)
Hey, you know what? I visited Harvard. That doesn't mean that I graduated from there. And I can't put that on my LinkedIn resume.

Naila Mr (56:55.932)
That's why I never say I graduated.

Naila Mr (57:02.576)
Hey, they encourage us so when you finish... No, but it's a fact. When you finish a course with Cambridge or Oxford, they give you some social posts that you can put up and say you've completed your course. But it's good to have it on the CV, right? You've completed a course. Yeah. Okay. So we... What? How much time do we have? Are we going into the future?

HDco (57:03.841)
You know what, you're not special anymore.

HDco (57:16.927)
Okay. All right.

Yeah, absolutely.

HDco (57:30.685)
Let me send Marcia a text real quick and let her know.

HDco (57:37.471)
by the miracle of editing.

Naila Mr (57:37.574)
Yeah, you're over by 10 minutes.

HDco (57:57.655)
by the miracle of editing, will just cut right past this. All right, where are we?

Naila Mr (58:01.746)
Yes.

HDco (58:06.325)
Okay, so we're moving to the future.

Naila Mr (58:12.027)
Yeah. So, the future. Are you starting with this or should I start with this one now?

HDco (58:23.511)
You can start. But lead us into that we're moving into the future so I can make a clean cut.

Naila Mr (58:31.623)
So Quinn, this is our last segment. We're getting into our future. We are limited on time, so I'm going to ask you only one question. And that is, if you were to create a dream project, now it could be a personal one, or it could be a work one, and that dream project had no limits, what would that dream project be?

HDco (59:00.683)
It would be some kind of documentary.

Naila Mr (59:03.258)
Okay, on a topic.

HDco (59:06.855)
That I'm not totally sure of. mean there's so many things that I'm interested in. But I would love to do a feature length documentary that...

I could tell compelling stories that have a similar thread, maybe from around the world, kind of like tying cultures together. think that would be really fascinating.

Naila Mr (59:32.859)
I like that. I like that. It's a bit like my thing.

HDco (59:35.145)
actually, I even have a better one. Okay, because that sounds really lofty and you're like, yeah, you're never going to do that. Okay, so I have an idea for a graphic design game show. It's not a game show, it's a reality show. So, and this I've actually plotted out the concept. So you have this really vivacious Gordon Ramsay type art director.

Naila Mr (59:37.575)
Okay, go on, go on.

Naila Mr (59:43.046)
No.

Naila Mr (01:00:04.946)
Mm-hmm.

HDco (01:00:05.078)
who takes a bunch of senior graphic design students and puts them into what we call the design pit. And we follow them for eight weeks. There's eight episodes. And they have to face a challenge each week. And so we will create all these different rules for the game. We have this idea of the golden pen for your pen tablet.

So if you win a challenge, you get this and you get to wear this. And so this all kind of stems from all these food network, yes, all these food network competitions I've watched over the years. So the winner wins $50,000 and is guaranteed a job at some agency. And the cool part about it is it's not just the competition. We get to watch them grow.

Naila Mr (01:00:39.409)
MasterChef, friend.

Naila Mr (01:00:43.965)
you

HDco (01:01:00.556)
throughout this eight week period as they go from seniors to becoming adults ready for the workforce. And I think it would be a fascinating concept. We just need a big sponsor who is willing to give us between $500,000 and a million dollars.

Naila Mr (01:01:21.819)
do love this idea because I love every type of these kind of reality shows. I'm not into love islands and blind dates and things but I love the cooking shows.

HDco (01:01:31.756)
I know, I see it all the time on Discovery Plus and I just, I was like, don't know, I watch it from time to time and I'm just like, I don't know, I don't get it.

Naila Mr (01:01:39.122)
Yeah, I love the ones where they're makeup artists, they're fashion designers. I love RuPaul's Drag Race, so I am a big, big fan of RuPaul's Drag Race. And I'm currently watching the Philippines one right now with subtitles. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We all even go when they're in the UK, when they have shows, the Drag Race shows, I kind of try and go there. So, you know, anyone listening to this podcast and you're interested in Quinn's idea?

HDco (01:01:54.646)
How fun!

Naila Mr (01:02:09.231)
reach out. She will patent this idea or whatever copyright it obviously so yeah reach out it would be fun I would love to watch it I'll come as a supporter.

HDco (01:02:19.117)
Yay. All right. So my wrap question for you is looking back, what would you tell your 20 year old self?

Naila Mr (01:02:32.443)
Looking back, what would I tell my 20 year old self?

that's a really tricky one though, isn't it? Because this is like... Why did I tell her to do any that? Okay.

it wouldn't be around the work stuff, right? Because I've pretty much always followed my passion and my love for things. So I've always been in that direction and I continue to do that. And that's how you become successful, right? And you define your own success anyways. So what I would tell myself is a bit personal is don't leave things too late. So I had a baby at 46.

And there were many opportunities. Had I done a bit of research or talked to people about it, I would have known that actually it would have been better if I, for example, froze my eggs earlier when I was 20 something. So, and that for me was one of those regrets in life that I just focused on, you know, work and my relationships, but never, and I thought, I had time, I have time, I have time, and I ran out of that.

And so yeah, that's my one thing I would tell my 20 year old self. Think about that too, yes. Enjoying your life, but yeah, you always wanted to be a mom, but make sure you know what you're doing the next time and talk to people and research about it.

HDco (01:04:03.616)
Yeah, I tell my 22 year old daughter that, you know, you're in the prime of your life and I don't want you to look back at these times and feel like that you squandered that. know, because once real responsibility, family, all those things start to become a reality, you're going to look back at that and be like, why didn't I take advantage of it when I had a chance? So.

Naila Mr (01:04:30.746)
Exactly. And that's why.

HDco (01:04:32.012)
Great advice for all of our young listeners.

Naila Mr (01:04:35.034)
Exactly. And we're here to tell people about these things, so I do talk to people about it.

So it's time for the wrap isn't it? It is, it is, it's time for the wrap. So that wraps our episode for Now, Near, In The Future. You can find us on all the usual platforms, Spotify, Apple, podcasts, Amazon and YouTube. Follow us on Instagram, LinkedIn and X at Now, Near, or visit us at nownearfuture.com.

HDco (01:04:45.5)
All right, you ready for the rap? Yes, the rap.

HDco (01:05:10.74)
If you loved this episode, like, subscribe, and share with your friends. If you didn't, just pretend this was very long around the room segment that got completely out of hand.

Naila Mr (01:05:20.894)
Hey people might say they love these kind of segments more so we might do more of them.

HDco (01:05:27.798)
Well, we'll let the audience weigh in on this.

Naila Mr (01:05:31.6)
So in order for us to weigh on on this, Quinn, where do they find you online?

HDco (01:05:37.77)
You can find me at HDCO.co. That's my website. You can find me on Instagram and on at HDCO. You can find me on LinkedIn. And that's about it.

Naila Mr (01:05:53.406)
and you can find me on LinkedIn so both either by Naila Mir or P3 Connect and the same on Instagram and Facebook so Quinn

HDco (01:06:07.188)
Nyla, thank you so much for joining us as our special guest. We really appreciate you being here.

Naila Mr (01:06:12.67)
Quinn, I was supposed to say the same thing to you. You took that away from me. Okay, so has anyone ever told you that you're weird? I'm joking. You're not, you're the sweetest person.

HDco (01:06:16.78)
Sorry, I beat you to it.

HDco (01:06:27.276)
You really need to work on your sarcasm and your biting critique. I was like, man, I feel bad that she's even asking that question.

Naila Mr (01:06:33.182)
No people. Quinn is the sweetest, helpful person you will know. So yes, she's not weird at all.

HDco (01:06:40.266)
I am also extremely weird, so.

Naila Mr (01:06:43.07)
We will hear about that next time. Exactly.

HDco (01:06:47.357)
on Now and Here in the Future.

As always, stay curious and keep dreaming.

Naila Mr (01:06:54.524)
and we will see you in the future.